Afghan Voice Agency (AVA) - Kabul: In this interview, Zabihullah Mujahid, referring to the four-year performance of the Islamic Emirate, said that every newly established system faces challenges, but despite economic problems, unexpected natural disasters, and the sudden return of refugees, 70 percent of the government's programs have progressed well and efforts are being made to reach a performance score of 100 percent. He also stated about international relations that the Islamic Emirate has so far gained about forty diplomatic missions and is establishing good relations with countries, but it has not yet achieved full recognition by some countries.
The spokesman for the Islamic Emirate also addressed security issues and regional cooperation and said that the flight of foreign drones in Afghanistan's airspace is a violation of national sovereignty and the government calls for its immediate cessation. Mujahid also explained about the return of Afghan refugees from Iran, the issue of rights to Helmand, investment and economic cooperation with neighboring countries, and the fight against drugs, and emphasized that the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan is committed to internal stability, border management, and respect for the country's different languages and cultures. He rejected rumors about the Bagram base and foreign forces and spoke about the government's efforts to maintain national independence and sovereignty.
You can read the details of the conversation between Zabihullah Mujahid, the spokesman for the Islamic Emirate, and the Iranian Broadcasting Corporation (IBC), below:
In response to the question of what challenges you faced in the domestic and international arenas after four years of the Afghan government taking office, and what score you would give to the performance of your government, Mr. Mujahid said: Every new government that comes to power naturally has its challenges. Not everything is standard. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan has achieved some achievements, but it has also had some challenges. We are facing a paralysis at the international level that must be resolved soon. The first issue is the recognition of the Islamic Emirate and the second is that the Afghan people who have emigrated abroad should return to their country. The infrastructure of the Afghan economy has not reached the level we expected. We have also encountered some events, such as the sudden return of refugees and unexpected natural events that occurred without our preparation, which naturally required the necessary management and was a challenge in itself. However, in general, we think that seventy percent of the programs of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan have progressed well. We have some setbacks, the factors for which are different, but the final effort is to achieve a score of 100 percent.
In response to the question that you have gained Afghan representations one after another in these four years? When do you think Afghanistan will achieve full recognition? Mujahid also said: Of course, the steps that Afghanistan has taken in this regard are effective and we have almost forty diplomatic representations and have established good diplomatic relations with the host countries and those countries are also ready to have full and official relations. Sometimes (official recognition) has not been announced and we understand the problems of countries in this regard which brings with it political problems of the world. In general, we have made good progress in this area. The remaining countries are European and Western countries whose wartime policies regarding Afghanistan have not changed. The policies must be changed and they must come out of the state of war. Also, it is not only a question of recognition, but the people of Afghanistan are under sanctions and there are sanctions on the travel of the dignitaries of the Islamic Emirate, there are also disturbances that must be removed, Islamic and neighboring countries have very good relations with us.
In response to the question about the drones that are circling in the airspace of Afghanistan, did you follow up on which countries they are from and why they are occupying the airspace of Afghanistan? Mujahid also said: Yes, we know exactly that they are American drones or "insiders" that have been in the airspace of Afghanistan since the victory of the Islamic Emirate and we regret that they pass through the airspace of some neighboring countries and enter Afghanistan. We want to stop these flights as soon as possible and this is a violation of the airspace of Afghanistan that must be prevented. Afghanistan has its objection in this regard and in the meetings to which we had access, we have raised our criticism and demanded a stop to the violation of the airspace of Afghanistan.
Mujahid In response to the question that you mentioned the issue of Afghan refugees in part of your speech, the Islamic Republic of Iran has been hosting millions of Afghan refugees for years, many of whom are present illegally and have entered Iran illegally through the shared borders. What help can the Afghan government provide to Iran in managing this issue? He also said: First, we thank the Islamic Republic of Iran for hosting refugees for many years, and second, we understand the problems that Iran is facing, including the heavy burden of refugees. We demand that the refugees who return are informed about the principles and methods of their return, and that Afghanistan be prepared and that we be able to provide the necessary services to the refugees who return. If there is an understanding and coordination between the two sides, I think the process of returning refugees will go well. Our demand is that the refugees who are in Iran be treated well, and that the hospitality remain the same for many years to come, and that the Afghan people keep the memories of their presence in Iran in their minds and return to their homeland with dignity and honor.
In response to the question that Afghan government officials have emphasized their commitment to the Helmand Rights Agreement, but in practice, as it should be and perhaps expectations have not been met, how do you think the officials of the two countries can reach a solution that both sides are satisfied with? Mujahid also said: "In my opinion, the dissatisfaction that has arisen is due to climate change. Last year, we did not witness snowfall and rain, and all water resources in Afghanistan have dried up, meaning the reserves of the Helmand River decreased last year, which affected the electricity situation in Kandahar and other places, and the turbines failed, and this is a disaster that has occurred, just as the Islamic Republic of Iran faced drought in some areas, some areas of Afghanistan also faced drought." In principle, we have no problems with the treaty on rights to the Helmand River, and if we have water, this water will undoubtedly reach Iran, and this is a natural flow that we do not stop the flow of water, and there is also understanding and understanding in this regard. Sometimes delegations have come from Iran, and Afghan officials have given a good answer.
Mujahid, in response to the question that the war in Afghanistan is now over and we see security in Afghanistan, many delegations from Iran have come to Afghanistan during this time, but as expected, investments between the two countries have not been made and have remained just words. What do you think is the problem? For example, the two countries can cooperate with each other in extraterritorial cultivation or in the mining and energy production sectors. He also said: I think it would be better if there was a mechanism on both sides that would follow up on the commitments of the officials and the delegations that come and go, and I think this would be better, but many of these matters are secondary. For example, the railway line that comes from Iran to Herat is progressing very well, and in this regard, we have made some progress, and trade matters have also progressed well, and if problems are encountered, they are resolved as soon as possible. In my opinion, the delegations that come and negotiate with each other should have a mechanism so that the agreements that are made are implemented. Both sides should feel responsible and take practical steps and the process is accelerated.
Mujahid, in response to the question that there are some issues that have become a challenge in the trade between Iran and Afghanistan, such as the stopping of trucks carrying fuel at the border, do you have a solution to resolve this challenge? He also said: Of course, one of the problems we have is climate change and deteriorating weather conditions, and substandard fuel is one of the important factors of air pollution in Afghanistan. The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan recently took action that we must have a good standard for fuel so that the consumption of fuel has little or no harm. Fuel coming from Iran is imported in small quantities and this material has its own standard problems and for this reason it is stopped. We want the two sides to have more coordination so that trucks carrying substandard fuel are not allowed to move towards Afghanistan. We are trying to solve the problems of the trucks that are stopped soon so that we can pave the way for it so that it is solved this time so that caution is taken in the future.
In response to the question of how the Afghan government views the Persian language spoken by some Afghans, Mujahid said: "No, Persian is our language, and in Afghanistan we have two languages, Dari and Pashto, and we call Dari Persian, and in our opinion, both languages have equal value. Of course, people speak differently in different regions of Afghanistan. Where Pashto-speaking people live, Pashto terms are used a lot, and where Dari-speaking people live, Dari terms are used more. We do not have a biased view of language in Afghanistan. Both languages are our languages, and we respect both. They are part of our culture, and our people speak them." In response to the question that the return of refugees from Iran was mostly voluntary, but the Western media and some media inside Afghanistan worked against the common interests of Iran and Afghanistan, while the people of Iran and Afghanistan have been together for years and have a common history, what goals do you think these media are pursuing? He also said: Of course, the media that work against the interests of Iran and Afghanistan have their own goals. It is better for both sides to be vigilant in this regard, meaning that we do not allow this propaganda to exist and affect society. We are also facing the Islamic Republic of Iran, which does not allow cases to occur that third-party media that want to mischief can abuse. We want these cases to be managed and not allow foreign circles and third-party media to create suspicion between the two countries.
In response to the question that you are also managing this matter inside Afghanistan? He said: We are also making our final effort in this regard, although our capabilities are relatively limited compared to the Islamic Republic of Iran, but we are trying not to allow cases to be misused.
In response to the question of what plan do you have for security and stability on Afghanistan's borders with neighboring countries, including Iran? Mujahid also said: Our attention has been focused on the border areas, one of the complaints we have received in this regard is the issue of smuggling, and in this regard we have reached an understanding with the Iranian border forces, and if there is more coordination and trust between the two sides, we are not worried and we hope that the Islamic Republic of Iran will not be worried about Afghan soil either. The issue of borders requires monitoring and joint measures to prevent smuggling problems.
In response to the question that NATO committed crimes in Afghanistan for twenty years under the command of the United States, what kind of relationship does the Afghan government want to have with the United States now? He also said: We want Afghanistan's relations with the countries of the world to be in a way that two principles are observed: one is a balanced policy that Afghanistan has adopted and the second is an economy-oriented one. We want to have regular diplomatic and economic relations with all countries, and these relations should be in accordance with international standards and value the independence and will of nations. Within this framework, we want to have relations with all countries, including the United States, but on the condition that they respect and honor Afghanistan.
Mujahid, in response to the question that considering the words of US President Trump and the threats he made to take the Bagram military base, will American soldiers be allowed to enter Afghanistan again? He also said: No, never. Based on the principles that the Afghan people have, we do not want even a single inch of this country's territory to be under the control of foreign forces. We will not allow even a single foreign soldier to be present on Afghan soil. But if, God forbid, the issue of occupation arises, as in the past when the US, Soviet Union, and Britain were present in this country, the Afghan people were never willing to accommodate the occupiers. And if the Afghan people do not allow it, the Islamic Emirate will not allow it either. Bagram is part of our territory and will certainly be used by the Afghan people.
Mujahid, in response to the question that it was a rumor that Trump was saying that the Afghan government had given Bagram to the Chinese, said that during the two or three days when the internet was down, Americans had come to Bagram. Which is true? Is there a third option? He also said: No, neither the Americans nor the Chinese have come to Bagram. We do not allow foreign forces from any country to enter Afghanistan and have a base here. Our nation does not agree with this and the government does not agree. The reason for the rumors was that they wanted to occupy public opinion to create concern. I reject these issues. There should be no concern or worry in this regard and there is no doubt that the people of Afghanistan will not allow the occupation of this country. Bagram is our land and is being used by the Afghan security forces.
Mujahid, in response to the question that then we can conduct the next interview in Bagram with Your Excellency present, said: God willing, we will do it when the opportunity arises.
In response to the question that considering the crimes committed by American soldiers in Afghanistan for twenty years and the freezing of Afghan foreign exchange reserves in the United States, did you pursue a place to investigate these crimes and release Afghan foreign exchange reserves or did a court look into these issues? Mujahid also said: We and you understand that there is no international court that can question America, America is the only one that has the first say in the world and imposes its demands by using force, but we have protested in this regard in international meetings and forums that we have had access to and have demanded that the money of the Afghan people be released as soon as possible, because it is the capital of the Afghan people, that relations be normalized and that sanctions be lifted, and these issues were also among America's commitments in the Doha Agreement. In any case, we want these trends to change in a positive direction and that better interaction be carried out.
In response to the question that some countries, including Central Asian countries, are talking about the presence of ISIS in Afghanistan and are concerned about this, how true is their concern? Mujahid also said: There are two issues in this regard. One is that ISIS was present in Afghanistan before the Islamic Emirate, had a base and a nest, and was even built to create insecurity in Afghanistan and had made this country insecure. However, after the victory of the Islamic Emirate, a decisive fight was waged against ISIS. Afghan security forces decisively crushed ISIS and prevented their movements. Now ISIS is neither a threat to the people of Afghanistan nor to the countries of the region. We assure neighboring and regional countries that there is no danger to them from ISIS from Afghan soil, and Afghan security forces have the ability to control the phenomenon of ISIS and its like, and Afghanistan will no longer allow foreign circles to be active here and evil circles that create insecurity in Afghanistan.
Mujahid, in response to the question that during the presence of foreign forces in Afghanistan, Afghanistan became the world's drug production hub, producing 95 percent of the world's drugs, while one of their slogans was to fight poppy cultivation, but the Afghan government has reduced poppy cultivation to almost zero in the past three years, I would like to ask about this success and that there is a concern that Afghanistan is moving from traditional drug production to industrial drugs and these drugs are being smuggled out of the country. Is there any will to fight industrial drugs? He also said: The Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan's determination in combating drugs is based on Islamic texts. When something is forbidden, the fight against it continues. There is no difference between traditional and industrial drugs. Both are harmful to humans and will be prevented. Indeed, the soil of Afghanistan has been cleared of drugs and is close to zero, and their trafficking has been prevented to a large extent. However, we have cases where some countries smuggle industrial drugs or materials used to produce drugs into Afghanistan. Afghan security forces also take decisive action to prevent drug trafficking, but drug trafficking has not been prevented as necessary. Sometimes we see that unfortunately industrial drugs are used, but their level is low, and industrial drug trafficking will also be prevented decisively.
In response to the question whether Western countries did not want to fight poppy cultivation or was it part of their plans? Mujahid also said: Poppy cultivation was part of their plans, we understand that before the presence of American soldiers in Afghanistan, poppy cultivation and its smuggling were prohibited, and when they came, some farmers were encouraged to cultivate poppy, for example, Helmand province was handed over to the British and the British encouraged Helmand farmers to cultivate poppy and the cultivated poppy was transited abroad from military and civilian airports. Afghan drugs were transited to Dubai and some other countries, and even former members of the Afghan parliament were involved in smuggling these drugs, officials of the previous government were involved in smuggling and had foreign encouragement and support, we can say that it was part of the plans.
In response to the question of how do you see the current situation of the ceasefire with Pakistan and what is its outlook? Considering that some countries, including the United States, do not want stability in the region? Mujahid also said: This is related to the vigilance of Afghanistan and Pakistan, how accurate we are in this regard, Afghanistan did not initiate the war and we want to have a permanent ceasefire, but the aggression that was recently carried out by Pakistan was regrettable, we believe that the country, people and government of Pakistan did not want this aggression, but there is a special military circle in Pakistan that unfortunately took such an action and of course we feel that perhaps the hands of the outsiders were in this matter. They had given this mission for the purposes of destabilizing the region, and we are trying to prevent them from succeeding and Pakistan also understands that it should not be a victim of the policies of the superpowers and not pull the region towards instability.
Mujahid, in response to the question of whether you are willing to respond to Pakistan's security concerns that the TTP is allegedly present in Afghanistan? He also said: We will certainly not allow the TTP to be present inside Afghan territory and create security concerns, and this issue has also been conveyed to the Pakistani negotiating team, and we reiterate that we will not allow Afghan soil to be used against Pakistan.
In response to the question that Pakistan believes that the solution to confronting the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan lies in cooperation with the Afghan government, do you accept this view? Mujahid also said: Without a doubt, we are looking for a solution and a solution must be found, meaning that Afghan territory is under control and management. We are not the only ones responsible around the Durand Line, but on the other side of the Durand Line, Pakistani forces themselves should be aware of the threats, because now that some attacks are being carried out, both the resources of the operations, the management, and the execution of the operations are on Pakistani soil, and they must control the attacks and not put the burden of their failure on Afghanistan.
In response to the question, what crimes did the Zionist regime commit in recent years on Palestinian soil, what is Afghanistan's position on this matter, and how do you see the future of Palestine and Gaza? Mujahid also said: Afghanistan firmly supports the cause of Palestine and the oppressed people of Gaza, they are right and their struggle is commendable, and we have supported them with all the means at our disposal. All Israeli aggressions are condemnable, and we have condemned them, and we also call on the countries of the world not to allow the oppression that exists in Palestine or the deceptions that exist to be carried out. Israel's hand should be cut off from Palestine, and the Palestinian people should return to peace, and Israel should be held accountable for the atrocities it has committed.
At the end of his speech, Zabihullah Mujahid said: "I thank you, the Islamic Republic of Iran and Afghanistan live in the same region and there are good relations between the two nations, we have cultural, linguistic and religious commonalities, both countries should have a lot of cooperation and this cooperation should be based on good trust. In my opinion, a good basis has been provided for increasing trust between the two countries and we can solve the problems we have through dialogue and understanding, including the issue of immigration, smuggling and water. If we have understanding and understanding, we can make progress. We are satisfied with the policies of the Islamic Republic of Iran and they have had good and brotherly contacts with us in these four years. I assure you that the people of Afghanistan believe in their friendship and are making every effort to ensure that both nations are close to each other and that the governments represent their nations."
Source: iribnews